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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 3, 2011 18:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 3, 2011 18:18:35 GMT -5
I think these pictures so I can back up my claims. I can also get more pictures and WW2 archive documents to back up the statements I have made, not just from the Nazi side, but from American and English as well.
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Post by THE POED METALHEDZ on Mar 4, 2011 0:14:46 GMT -5
i dont see anything significantly remeniscent of the third reich in the muslims one.
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 4, 2011 16:57:14 GMT -5
You can't tell the uniforms they are wearing? They are all divisions of the German military or allies of the German military.
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 4, 2011 16:59:14 GMT -5
you have to admit though, it kind of does blow out the theory of blond hair, blue eyes only and them hating all other races. Though in the Indian cast system, the whiter you are the high up on the cast system you, which would be great for me if that's true, because that would be I'm of the highest cast, as you don't get much whiter than me without looking like Powder or being Albino.
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Post by THE POED METALHEDZ on Mar 4, 2011 19:42:19 GMT -5
i am practically seethrough i am so friggin white you practically see every one of my veins, aside from my face and forearms. the native american in me doesnt apply to my skin, my scottish heritage kicks in with that. though i already knew there were kinks to the whole aryan race ruling all when the supreme leaders closest trait was his white skin. i personally dont believe in race mixing, which is why i only will procreate with an inuit, native american, scotch-irish, or germanic women. gotta stay true to my blood. well germany worked with italy, and italians arent really all that white.
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 5, 2011 1:04:01 GMT -5
The Italians used to be white, blonds and redheads,ect, but between the Moors invading Sicily and the Roman's bringing in foreigners from North Africa, their genes got mixed with darker skinned people which resulted in the look they have now, though Northern Itally, still has a lot of light skinned people.
The German's/Nazi's didn't believe they were pure, they believed they were the closest to the Aryan race, had the most amount of Aryan genes left in them.
I feel you on the pale thing, I'm just as pale. Sounds like your little mixed up their genetically.
I'm pretty much German decents, a lot of my family coming over during one of the world wars, though I have some English, from a great grandmother who came over as a teenager from England, and I think a little Irish. Their is some French but I rarely admit that, as I don't like the French or that side of the family. The French side is actually descended from the English Drakes.
It actually says in the Bible that God didn't want us race mixing. At one time all the races united together and formed one country and were breeding , mixing and working together, the capital being the Tower of Babel. This upset God, so he made all the races speak different languages so we wouldn't be able to communicate and work together , which is why we have our own countries instead of one united nation all working together and mixing together.
In Revelations, when it talks about the New Babylon, its referring to a United Nation, were all the races of the world are working together with one big world government. Does that sound familiar?
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Post by THE POED METALHEDZ on Mar 5, 2011 4:24:12 GMT -5
i know the stories you speak of, i live in the bible belt, theres not many children here that havent had the bible shoved down there throat here at one time or another.
well the only blood i have that holds any rights to north america is my mothers side, where the indian, and inuit come into play. my fathers great grandfather was actually in WW2 for germany. he sent his wife and her two sons here to america, he died there in germany apparently. im not sure how he died
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 5, 2011 21:29:02 GMT -5
Family on both sides of my family came over during one of the WWs because they had had young children and didn't want them to grow up in the middle of war. I believe my great grandfather's parents brought him over when he was 5 because they feared the Russian invasion and didn't want their children to be exposed to that.
My great uncle worked under Paton in WW2. He would often talk about how Paton believed we were on the wrong side of the war and how he believed we should of sided with Germany and that Hitler was right to warn against trusting the Russians, who were crazy, liars , brutal, and trying to take over the world to turn communist, which later proved right as soon after we entered the cold war. Though Russia. though Russia wouldn't have had a chance against America if it wasn't for the Nazi scientist they recruited through force, same with their influence in the space race. He also said that Paton often said we should side with Germany on the threat of Russia, who were expansionist trying to take over the world for communism and destroying the Jewish powers in the banks, who were trying to and successfully controlling the world through the banking system and the only reason for WW2 was because Germany refused to pay back the world bank, which America and England were greatly in debt to, and Roosevelt was also a communist (founder the of the Progressive Party) and from big money and that is why America was dragged into the war. The same happened with the 100 Year War, which he sited as proof of the intentions of family's such as the Roosevelt's, Rothschild and Rockefeller. The Rothschild family through the World Bank being directly responsible for the 100 Year War.He also talked about how at the beginning they used to joke about the war being a joke because the ground troops were sent to fight, but no one actually fought, all the American, English and French troops just sat there because everyone thought it was wrong to attack Germany that we shouldn't be going to war with them and should either leave them alone or side with them against communism and Russia. Paton was a very vocal on that issue. My uncle said he was a genius general but often complained about being on the wrong side and hated having to fight against Germany. It made no sense to side with the Russians. That Russia was the threat to all the values of democracy American's founding father's valued so much. He would go on longer rants than I do! I was little then, for he got Alzheimer when I was entering my pre-teens and died when i was 15. My father was in the military at the time and we were stationed in Germany and I would get letters from my uncle once in a while sending me packs of gum, as he always had gum for me when I went to visit him. I was also in his will with my father to inherited some gold bars he obtained during WW2 during the invasion of Germany. However, since we were stationed over seas at the time, his nephew who never had anything to do with him before his sickness, got him to change his will .leaving everything to him after my uncles Alzheimer got sever enough for the nephew to get away with it and my uncle to be unaware of what was going on. The only witness of the will change being the nephew's lawyer. If it hadn't been for my uncle's illness he would never had cut me out of his will as my father and I were his favorites. He liked me because I loved to listen to his war stories and him and my father used to go hunting then my father joined the military, which made him so proud. Oh, he was from the German side of my family, the Gieb's. My mother's grandfather also came over when he was young during one of the wars, can't remember which, though, they were Hunds. I did have a great grandmother who came from England in her 20s and married my German and i think Irish great grand father or was is Daisy, my great grandmother on my mom's side that had the Irish? I know Daisy did have my grandfather with a guy that was German/French or rather German and German/French or something like that. So yeah, German blood is really strong in my family, though none of them fought for Germany, they call fled with their children to safe ground, some planning on returning after the war, until Germany lost.
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Post by athy on Mar 6, 2011 9:40:05 GMT -5
you have to admit though, it kind of does blow out the theory of blond hair, blue eyes only and them hating all other races. Though in the Indian cast system, the whiter you are the high up on the cast system you, which would be great for me if that's true, because that would be I'm of the highest cast, as you don't get much whiter than me without looking like Powder or being Albino. Only as a means to an end, Hitler and the Nazi party intended to use them either as slave labor (like the slavs) or eliminate them like the Jews, but considering the Nazi's lost we will never really know, but in their ideology and beliefs at the time at least they did see Arabs (and Muslims especially) as sub-human.
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Post by athy on Mar 6, 2011 10:05:46 GMT -5
Family on both sides of my family came over during one of the WWs because they had had young children and didn't want them to grow up in the middle of war. I believe my great grandfather's parents brought him over when he was 5 because they feared the Russian invasion and didn't want their children to be exposed to that. My great uncle worked under Paton in WW2. He would often talk about how Paton believed we were on the wrong side of the war and how he believed we should of sided with Germany and that Hitler was right to warn against trusting the Russians, who were crazy, liars , brutal, and trying to take over the world to turn communist, which later proved right as soon after we entered the cold war. Though Russia. though Russia wouldn't have had a chance against America if it wasn't for the Nazi scientist they recruited through force, same with their influence in the space race. He also said that Paton often said we should side with Germany on the threat of Russia, who were expansionist trying to take over the world for communism and destroying the Jewish powers in the banks, who were trying to and successfully controlling the world through the banking system and the only reason for WW2 was because Germany refused to pay back the world bank, which America and England were greatly in debt to, and Roosevelt was also a communist (founder the of the Progressive Party) and from big money and that is why America was dragged into the war. The same happened with the 100 Year War, which he sited as proof of the intentions of family's such as the Roosevelt's, Rothschild and Rockefeller. The Rothschild family through the World Bank being directly responsible for the 100 Year War.He also talked about how at the beginning they used to joke about the war being a joke because the ground troops were sent to fight, but no one actually fought, all the American, English and French troops just sat there because everyone thought it was wrong to attack Germany that we shouldn't be going to war with them and should either leave them alone or side with them against communism and Russia. Paton was a very vocal on that issue. My uncle said he was a genius general but often complained about being on the wrong side and hated having to fight against Germany. It made no sense to side with the Russians. That Russia was the threat to all the values of democracy American's founding father's valued so much. He would go on longer rants than I do! I was little then, for he got Alzheimer when I was entering my pre-teens and died when i was 15. My father was in the military at the time and we were stationed in Germany and I would get letters from my uncle once in a while sending me packs of gum, as he always had gum for me when I went to visit him. I was also in his will with my father to inherited some gold bars he obtained during WW2 during the invasion of Germany. However, since we were stationed over seas at the time, his nephew who never had anything to do with him before his sickness, got him to change his will .leaving everything to him after my uncles Alzheimer got sever enough for the nephew to get away with it and my uncle to be unaware of what was going on. The only witness of the will change being the nephew's lawyer. If it hadn't been for my uncle's illness he would never had cut me out of his will as my father and I were his favorites. He liked me because I loved to listen to his war stories and him and my father used to go hunting then my father joined the military, which made him so proud. Oh, he was from the German side of my family, the Gieb's. My mother's grandfather also came over when he was young during one of the wars, can't remember which, though, they were Hunds. I did have a great grandmother who came from England in her 20s and married my German and i think Irish great grand father or was is Daisy, my great grandmother on my mom's side that had the Irish? I know Daisy did have my grandfather with a guy that was German/French or rather German and German/French or something like that. So yeah, German blood is really strong in my family, though none of them fought for Germany, they call fled with their children to safe ground, some planning on returning after the war, until Germany lost. My fathers line goes back to the British royal family, as far back as the 1950s when our last link was ended when a relative came here and helped out his family during hard times here (the father of the relative however was a bitter and probably racist towards colonials thus disinherited him), later on the relative retired happily in NZ on a special pension for those who are disinherited. My mothers is more complex, on one side of her family as I understand they were Armenians who came on the mayflower, the other side a mix of Armenians who fled the genocide and married into an Arab Palestinian family before removed by the establishment of the state of Israel. Thus my mother was born in Saudi Arabia, immigrating to the US when quite young. I don't feel anything against the Jews however for that, what is done is done, as for Turkey and their Azeri brothers they were humiliated in the 1990s and the Azeri's lost 15% of 'their land', and they won't stop complaining and bitching because they lost a war. I feel no sympathy for those on the Azeri side that died when their goal was a Pan-Turkic empire, they got smashed and deserved all they got (the Iranians, Kurds, Greeks, Armenian's, Assyrians and many others have all suffered at their barbaric hands), but this is history. I can rant like that too, but I stopped hating, but dislike and mistrust and disgust I will always have. They can deny they committed genocide, but it happened, Hitler, Churchill, Roosevelt, Wilson all agreed on that fact, it's cowardly no powerful leaders today save Putin stand up for Armenia (ironic since as the USSR it tried to destroy its culture, and Christian beliefs, and took away its sovereignty). As for the USSR who can forget the USSR-Turkey invasion of the Republic of Armenia after the war, their invasion of Eastern Europe, and their destruction of the state of Poland in defiance of their agreements they signed during the war. There were plenty of good reasons to go to war with the USSR after ww2, but whether that would have lead to a nuclear war we can't really know.
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 6, 2011 17:04:41 GMT -5
There was plenty of reason to NEVER side with the USSR before or during WW2! In your statement about slave labor, I have a hell of time believing that, as it makes no sense given they didn't want those lands at all, so why waste the resources? Sure you can make money off slave labor but really it still doesn't make sense, as slavery has always had bad consequences after, such as race mixing, and the slave population raising eventually revolution. Can you please back up that statement, that they intended to use those groups for slave labor or exterminations. The Nazi's never had black or Arab slaves, such as the Americans and English. The only time they used slave labor was when they ran out of regular workers, and had a bunch of Jews sitting in camps, because they couldn't get rid of them, Every time they tried to send them off, they got shipped back. Himmler , actually really like the Muslims.
I do feel what said the Armenians though. I don't find it Ironic that Putin, stood up for Armenian's because Russia the longer the USSR when Putin was in control. I don't know much about Putin myself, but he doesn't seem too bad from what I've heard. My boyfriend, really likes Putin. The Armenian's were almost completely wiped out weren't they?
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Post by MorrighanaWarGoddess on Mar 6, 2011 17:12:48 GMT -5
Metal, where are you from? I stayed in a Bible Belt town once, I made REALLY REALLY good money then. I was bringing home between $800-$1000 a night, in 6 hour shifts. I hated the hot AL weather though. Though, Michigan is a horrible place to try and make any money.
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Post by athy on Mar 6, 2011 21:56:58 GMT -5
There was plenty of reason to NEVER side with the USSR before or during WW2! In your statement about slave labor, I have a hell of time believing that, as it makes no sense given they didn't want those lands at all, so why waste the resources? Sure you can make money off slave labor but really it still doesn't make sense, as slavery has always had bad consequences after, such as race mixing, and the slave population raising eventually revolution. Can you please back up that statement, that they intended to use those groups for slave labor or exterminations. The Nazi's never had black or Arab slaves, such as the Americans and English. The only time they used slave labor was when they ran out of regular workers, and had a bunch of Jews sitting in camps, because they couldn't get rid of them, Every time they tried to send them off, they got shipped back. Himmler , actually really like the Muslims. I do feel what said the Armenians though. I don't find it Ironic that Putin, stood up for Armenian's because Russia the longer the USSR when Putin was in control. I don't know much about Putin myself, but he doesn't seem too bad from what I've heard. My boyfriend, really likes Putin. The Armenian's were almost completely wiped out weren't they? Over time, Christian anti-Semitism acquired a racial dimension along with its religious thrust. This had significant consequences. After all, when Jew-hating was rooted in religion, a Jew could convert to Christianity and become, as it were, fully kosher. But when states began forcing Jews to convert—or face expulsion or execution—the authenticity of the Jews’ conversions became suspect. After Christians conquered Spain from the Muslims in 1492, they forced Jews and Muslims to convert, flee, or die. Many Jews converted yet practiced their old faith secretly, leading church officials to make new rules discriminating against all so-called conversos. In the 19th century, anti-Semitism became increasingly racialized. The Enlightenment certainly made life better for Jews, at least in Western Europe, where religious tolerance took hold. Yet the Enlightenment also brought new “scientific”—or, as we now say, pseudoscientific—notions that human beings belonged to different races, some superior to others. Under these notions, Jews (as well as Africans, Arabs, and others) were deemed to be biologically and thus immutably inferior to white or “Aryan” Europeans.www.slate.com/id/2057949/Plenty of articles on the subject. But basically arabs were deemed useful like the slavs, but there is no doubt the Nazis would have had to deal with them if not during the war but after they had won. As for the Armenian Genocide, it was half the nation wiped out (Western Armenia), Eastern Armenia was not effected by the genocide being basically in Russian territory, though Western Armenia was the intellectual heart thus many artists, writers, scholars, poets, musicians were lost. Many Armenians still dream of liberating Western Armenia from Turkey, and Turkish hatred of Armenians and their genocide denial only increase their determination to do so. If the Azeri's declare war on Armenia again, then the Armenians just might get it, as Turks and Azeris are poor soldiers in comparison....last war it was 10 Azeris for every Armenian, so Armenians are not scared of Turks/Azeris and think them barbaric, hateful, xenophobic and corrupt (which considering their history and the way they treat their minorities in the past and today is 100% true). If you ask Kurds in Turkey why they have so many children, they will tell you it is because they believe the Turks want to genocide them like the Armenians, Greeks and others, they have so many children so they can fight the Turks and free their people from Turkish oppression, and found their own nation of Kurdistan.
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Post by THE POED METALHEDZ on Mar 7, 2011 1:12:55 GMT -5
born and raised in tennessee. never been more north than southern ohio, never beeen further south than the florida everglades.
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